{"id":1109,"date":"2021-11-09T09:48:14","date_gmt":"2021-11-09T08:48:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pro-ide.fr\/?p=1109"},"modified":"2021-12-14T16:20:45","modified_gmt":"2021-12-14T15:20:45","slug":"immigre-peut-on-ouvrir-un-compte-bancaire","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pro-ide.fr\/en\/immigrant-why-so-difficult-to-open-a-bank-account\/","title":{"rendered":"Immigrant, why so difficult to open a bank account?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><em><strong><em>Que dit la loi en France et dans l&#8217;Union europ\u00e9enne ? Et pourquoi un compte bancaire est-il indispensable&nbsp;pour les demandeurs d&#8217;asile, r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s, migrants&nbsp;? Les documents dont vous avez besoin.<\/em><\/strong><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>During the interview with the officer of the French Office for Integration and Immigration (OFII), in addition to <a href=\"https:\/\/pro-ide.fr\/en\/asylum-in-france-where-to-start-2\/\">housing and other services<\/a><sup>1<\/sup>which I have explained so far, you will also be offered financial assistance as an asylum seeker. In French, it's called ADA. Over the past 4-5 years, the method of use and its amount have changed a lot. Especially after November 2019. In short, the ADA card that will be proposed to you by the OFII, now offers much more limited possibilities: it no longer allows withdrawals from ATMs as before. ADA serves you simply to make card payments in stores or supermarkets (which should always be over 5 euros), it does not tell you how much money you are left, and does not serve you for online shopping either. It does not entitle you to have a bank account.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><strong>Before explaining ADA\u2026<\/strong><\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What many asylum seekers and many immigrants in France do not know or just skip is that, apart the ADA card, the legal framework in France guarantees the opening of a current bank account, which will give you more financial independence and greater convenience of services. For example, it is unlikely that any internet or telephone operator in France can contract with you if you do not have such an account. Why? Because in France the payment is automatically withdrawn from the account and is not paid in cash, unlike of the way this is done in many countries from which immigrants come. \nIn the absence of a current account, prepaid cards are the only solution for telephone and mobile service. Very expensive and with very limited time, these cards greatly burden the budget of immigrants, without allowing them to receive the necessary services. But the internet and telephony are of the greatest importance to you: to get information, to orient with addresses in France, to learn the language, to talk to your family, to communicate with various institutions, etc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The question is clear then: How can you obtain a bank account, ideally a current one, when you are an asylum seeker in France?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote is-style-solid-color\"><blockquote class=\"has-text-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\"><p>What many asylum seekers and immigrants in France do not know or just skip is that, apart the ADA card, the legal framework in France guarantees the opening of a current bank account.<\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><strong>Yes, a bank account is possible<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Regardless of the ADA \"... it is still advisable to open a bank account (at La Banque Postale ). For this, you must present the asylum application certificate and a valid postal address.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.gisti.org\/spip.php?article5243\">In case of difficulties, you can contact the Spada or the accommodation center to help you out<\/a>&nbsp;\". - explains GISTI<sup>1<\/sup>association (August 2021), which specializes in legal advice for immigrants in France. Keep the two above- mentioned documents in a safe place.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Of course, migrants who are not asylum seekers, but who nevertheless have valid residence permits or admissions, must present these documents to the bank and not the asylum application certificate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Apparently, there are a lot of problems. It is not obvious that banks in France accept that a foreigner opens an account even when he\/she has a valid proof of residence and lives legally in the territory.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote is-style-solid-color\"><blockquote class=\"has-text-color has-luminous-vivid-orange-color\"><p>In the absence of a current account, prepaid cards are the only solution for telephone and mobile service. Very expensive and with very limited time, these cards greatly burden the budget of immigrants, without allowing them to receive the necessary services.<\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><strong>What does the law say in France and the European Union?<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And yet, it is a fundamental right validated by official texts in France and also at European Union (EU) level. More precisely:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/id\/LEGISCTA000006174383\/\">L264-3 CASF<\/a><sup>3<\/sup>&nbsp;(\"The absence of a stable address cannot be opposed to a person to deny him the exercise of a right, a social benefit or access to an essential service guaranteed by law, in particular in banking and postal matters, as long as the person has a valid certificate (of choice, the postal address\u201d).<\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/eur-lex.europa.eu\/legal-content\/FR\/TXT\/?uri=CELEX:32014L0092\">Directive 2014\/92\/UE of 23 July 2014 \/<\/a><sup>4<\/sup>&nbsp;ACCESS TO PAYMENT ACCOUNTS\/ Article 15\/Non-discrimination (\u201cMember States shall ensure that credit institutions do not discriminate against consumers legally resident in the Union by reason of their nationality or place of residence\u201d. Article 16\/2 \u201cMember States shall ensure that consumers legally resident in the Union, including consumers with no fixed address and asylum seekers, and consumers who are not granted a residence permit but whose expulsion is impossible for legal or factual reasons\u2026\u201d<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>More than that, the above-mentioned directive specifies that these persons (\u2026 have the right to open and use a payment account with basic features with credit institutions located in their territory. Such a right shall apply irrespective of the consumer\u2019s place of residence).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;Thus, it is obvious that asylum seekers and consumers who do not have a residence permit but whose expulsion is impossible for legal or practical reasons, have the right to a bank account which guarantees the basic services. As is the case with the checking account.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the following article I will explain why the current account is essential for a migrant in France, what happens in reality quite often, why it may happen that you cannot even open a Livret A (a kind of saving account ) and what are the legal ways that can be followed in such a case.<\/p>\n\n\n<script>\n                            if (window.qmn_quiz_data === undefined) {\n                                    window.qmn_quiz_data = new Object();\n                            }\n                    <\/script><script>window.qmn_quiz_data[\"1\"] = {\"quiz_id\":\"1\",\"quiz_name\":\"Sondage\",\"disable_answer\":\"0\",\"ajax_show_correct\":\"0\",\"progress_bar\":\"0\",\"contact_info_location\":\"0\",\"qpages\":{\"1\":{\"id\":\"1\",\"quizID\":\"1\",\"pagekey\":\"zYPraRNN\",\"hide_prevbtn\":\"0\"}},\"skip_validation_time_expire\":\"1\",\"timer_limit_val\":0,\"disable_scroll_next_previous_click\":\"0\",\"disable_first_page\":0,\"enable_result_after_timer_end\":\"0\",\"enable_quick_result_mc\":\"0\",\"end_quiz_if_wrong\":\"0\",\"form_disable_autofill\":\"0\",\"disable_mathjax\":0,\"enable_quick_correct_answer_info\":\"0\",\"quick_result_correct_answer_text\":\"Correct! 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L\u2019asile en France : par o\u00f9 commencer?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/pro-ide.fr\/en\/asylum-in-france-where-to-start-2\/\">https:\/\/pro-ide.fr\/lasile-en-france-par-ou-commencer\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><sup>2<\/sup> Gisti, (verifi\u00e9 le 04.11.2021).Les d\u00e9marches au guichet unique (pr\u00e9fecture et Ofii).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gisti.org\/spip.php?article5118\" class=\"rank-math-link\">https:\/\/www.gisti.org\/spip.php?article5118<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><sup>3<\/sup> L\u00e9gifrance, (verifi\u00e9 le 04.11.2021). Code de l&#8217;action sociale et des familles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/id\/LEGISCTA000006174383\/\">https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/id\/LEGISCTA000006174383\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><sup>4<\/sup> EUR Lex (verifi\u00e9 le 16.10.2021). Document&nbsp;32014L0092.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/eur-lex.europa.eu\/legal-content\/FR-EN\/TXT\/?from=FR&amp;uri=CELEX%3A32014L0092\">https:\/\/eur-lex.europa.eu\/legal-content\/FR-EN\/TXT\/?from=FR&amp;uri=CELEX%3A32014L0092<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>*&nbsp;<\/strong><em>This article is produced as part of the \u201cMigration, Youth and Internet\u201d project. It is written by Elda Spaho Bleta, volunteer of the local group Oxfam in Nancy, who paid close attention to the information given. The sources of the information are cited, and when personal advice is given, it is the sole responsibility of the editor. If, despite her attention, an error had slipped into the document, please report it to her by writing to nancy@oxfamfrance.org. 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